Here's your last question. [9] We laughed and remembered when Desmond Reed finally scored a touchdown and he lit up telling me, I couldnt even enjoy it. Specific. Career ladders are never cushy for anybody, man or woman, unless of course your dad is president of GM or GE or whatever Nation's Bank is called this week. First Female Reporter In Nfl Locker Room. On Jan 21, 1975 she "broke the locker room barrier" as the first female reporter to enter a male professional league locker room (NHL All-Star Game) for post-game quotes. I think about what it would be like to have them asking me every day, "Well, how about that really thrown-together graph there at the top?" We may earn a commission from links on this page. One even said, "You know you don't have to do this work," in a tone that sounded like Sting telling Roxanne she didn't have to put on the red light. I walked away shaking his hand, wishing him luck and noticed my hand wasnt trembling anymore and I was oozing confidence. I asked my question; he answered. When the day finally came that she would break down a huge professional barrier, Robin Herman did not have much time to prepare. Now almost everyone had stopped watching football and was watching me and Reggie. ")[5] Later, on February 4, 1991, at a male-only sports banquet in Stamford, Connecticut, Kiam told the attendees a crude joke about the incident. The next day, another player told Eskenazi it was a joke. New York Times hockey reporter Robin Herman was a trailblazer, breaking down gender barriers by becoming the first female journalist to interview players inside a men's professional sports locker room in the U.S. On Tuesday, her husband former Times editor Paul Horvitz told the newspaper that she passed away from ovarian cancer. I walked over to the corner where two guys from my hometown had their lockers. On this day in 1977, Melissa Ludtke was barred from reporting the World Series from the teams' locker rooms. The National Hockey League, Major League Baseball, the National Basketball Association and the National Football League barred women reporters from entering men's locker rooms when women first . I started out in the office, taking scores on the phone and taking heat from the guys. SAGAL: I thought I'd bring you on and see what you had. If the locker room is where athletes can be themselves, that change may be the most challenging. I don't have a radio talk show yet, but I now make my living writing about sportsat the moment, mostly the Texas Rangers. TAFOYA: But still, tune in each Sunday night. Like a son telling his mom, Way to go, you made me proud.. Get browser notifications for breaking news, live events, and exclusive reporting. You see, folks in the world of sports weren't used to working with a "fee-male." No one did or said anything off-color. We never wanted for anything we really needed, but my parents, raised in the Depression, were cautious about spending. Those years were perhaps the most trying. Her family were fervent sports fans. She described the language used by players as "rude" and says she was "discomforted.". As Jones talked to reporter Albert Breer about the "nitty-gritty" of his team's latest triumph, the locker room hinterland showed at least seven players in various forms of undress, ranging . It might as well have been a water cooler. "Jenn," he asked, "do you want to be treated like an 18-year-old kid or a woman?". They didn't know, and it made me feel awkward that they didn't know that this stuff really didn't bother me outside of the fact that I felt obligated to respond with a remark, which took away from my ability to do my job. 26 photos, First published on August 12, 2011 / 12:24 PM. Olson worked as a sports columnist for the Daily News for ten years. Pearlman is a household name when it comes to sportswriters, and Long is one of the most beloved Philadelphia athletes in recent memory. The following year, a federal judge struck down the MLB policy on 14th Amendment grounds. Other summer nights we sat on the back porch and listened to the Rangers on the radio. She has covered sports stories in Afghanistan, Pakistan, Japan, China, Australia, South Africa and New Zealand. Its basically the same interview, over and over again, Islanders forward Anders Lee said Monday, taking off his pads in the corner of the locker room. But that's while they are still trying to maneuver you quickly into bed. In my three years away, I'd shed a husband, a house, a lot of weight, and a collection of unhealthy habits. The players dont care, I dont care, heynobody cares! I had become a sweating mass of raw nerve endings. SAGAL: So how did you get into the - how did you - I mean, I'm going to guess SAGAL: that it's harder for a woman to get into major league professional sports reporting than it is for a man. Whoops! If I never went in a locker room, it would have been fine with me, Ludtke said. No less than two or three times a home stand, the feeling hits againalmost always as I walk down that tunnel from the upper deck that spits you out in back of home plate. "Can I talk to you for a minute," I said. Indeed, athletes are increasingly coached on what to say to reporters in interviewsand what not to say. I can't tell you the bizarre arguments I've had with a few of these creeps who keep suggesting I become a teacher. The New York Islanders arent shy about giving interviews in various stages of undress. I mean, because if you sell out the coach, you never get to talk to them again, so I don't want to sell out the coach. I always said modern feminism has nothing to do with equality and this degrading treatment of men proves it. Vikings fans got to agree with that. So I stepped down the tunnel from the dugout to the clubhouse and peered around the open door. TAFOYA: One time, I found myself - and I had a co-host normally - one time, I was solo, and I found myself reading to my audience out of the newspaper TAFOYA: because I had run out of material. ' Herman said. or "You wrote a good piece, Jenn, but then your headline writers let you down at the end; what does that feel like?" But the point is that you don't even think much about people being naked after a while, and unless you have some peculiar reason for remembering, you don't know who you have seen naked because they all kind of waltz in and out of the shower naked, just one wet butt covered with soap film after another. For eight months, the editors refused to assign me any stories. The little pranksters had used a bowl or something to draw a "circle slash" over Ruben's crotch. SAGAL: How do you talk about sports for five hours without boring yourself to death? They knew I could write even the most boring stuff into something of interest. Always Al Newman, and he's always smiling because he's kind of happy to be here too. Ines Sainz, a reporter for the Mexican network TV Azteca, gestures while working on the sideline during the second quarter of an NFL football between the New York Jets and the Baltimore Ravens at . What was fascinating to me was getting to hear the teasing between players, how they gave each other crap, she says. The grass spreads out in the shape of a precious gem, and there are fans here and there who have come to see batting practice just because it's relaxing. TAFOYA: Yes, on-field commentary, pre-game interviews, post-game interviews. Do they want to know if it's hard for him to keep his professionalism with his hand inserted in some babe's bodily cavityand whether it's scary? You get a really honest reaction, and thats what makes stories good., Some of the best locker room reporting comes when the unthinkable happens, reminding us that these gods between the lines are just men and women outside of them. And I have shared that with very few people. Phyllis George Brown, a former Miss America winner and the first female sportscaster to work at a major network, died on Thursday after complications from a blood disorder she had developed. In 1982, Visser was the first woman in Coach Bear Bryant's locker room. She won numerous writing awards during her time with the Daily News, including "Best Sports Reporting" by the Society of Professional Journalists. All rights reserved. Yes, I was that excited. Yet all the time I was still dreaming up stories to get me to the ball park. I could see my worth resided within the confines of a B cup and size six jeans. The telephone poll conducted this week among 1,026 randomly selected adults nationwide found 59 percent of 556 women and 47 percent of 470 men said female reporters should be banned from NFL . But the next year, I entered myself for the "Locker Room" piece, and no one could have been more surprised than me when editor Glenn Stout called to tell me I was to be included in the next edition. It's a symbiotic relationshipthe relationship only works if both parties are comfortable with the other. I've always considered the real hurdle of all this to be players' perception of me, not suppressing my thoughts. Top photo illustration by Jim Cooke; original photo by Scogin Mayo. SAGAL: And is this something you always wanted to do? "Are you going to talk to me or not?" Herman, then a 23-year-old reporter for The New York Times, had been trying for a year This text may not be in its final form and may be updated or revised in the future. "I don't think women should be in the locker room," he said. I had been lobbying for this for a long time, so when the opportunity presented itself, I said Id The NFL is condemning remarks made by Washington Redskins running back Clinton Portis concerning female reporters in the locker room. Perfect. I had to remind myself that I should probably look away. I don't like the double-standard we have with male-female divide. SAGAL: I got to ask you about the locker room. 1950) is an American sportscaster who worked for ESPN and NBC Sports beginning in 1987 until 1993. Gayle Gardner began working for ESPN in 1983 as a SportsCenter anchor, becoming one of the first women to regularly anchor a nightly network sports broadcast. "A sportswriter, huh? to that woman.". The Stacks is Deadspin's living archive of great journalism, curated by Bronx Banter's Alex Belth. For the first time in NFL history there will be two female coaches on the. But hey, I was the center of attention on a baseball field; I could sell out for that. By Adrienne Jones. I remember being scared because I hadn't known how the locker room was going to look or smell or who or what I would have to wade throughliterally and figurativelyto find this man. "Are you going to talk to me or not?" As Orwell said, Everyone's equal, but some are more equal than others. He kept muttering. I did not want to smell the entire ride home, so I decided to take a shower. The latter are supposed to be more humorous than the former, though adulthood has taught me different. [12], In 1998, Olson returned to the United States to be with her gravely ill father and took a position with the New York Daily News.[1][9]. SAGAL: Here's your first question. Standard Fraley, so no problems there. think men are going to tend to turn and look and want to say something Except she. From a New York Times obit by Richard Sandomir headlined "Robin Herman, Who Pried Open Doors in the NHL, Dies at 70":. Although Olson settled a civil suit, fans of the football team made threats on Olson's life in the aftermath. I was surprised to realize that some of the wounds still hurt. I was afraid of the unknown. Sometimes I take a seat in the dugout, where a few of the guys are filtering in, grabbing bats and bubble gum. A, Revolutionary officers hid inside from British pursuers who wouldn't enter because they were not members. I said, "Listen, I have been covering this game since I was about two years older than you are so you can just shut it right now.". Access issues aside, broader changes in the media environment have begun to change the content of locker-room interviews, presenting a more chronic problem for many sports journalists. If you get this one right, you will win. I walked over to the only Angel who didn't yet have on some form of clothing. Gordon Robertson, locker room guard, stops Robin Herman from entering the Chicago Black Hawks locker room (January 1975). We understood the importance this held.. SAGAL: Because I remember - this was now going back 20 years ago maybe SAGAL: when the first female reporters were working major sports, and they wanted to go into the locker room and do the same damn interviews that their male counterparts were doing. Why? Do you go into the locker room? I wrote management repeatedly. She lives with three dogs in her happy bungalow in Texas. I've been around long enough now that if they see me turn away, they probably know it isn't because I'm scared or intimidated. The misconceptions about the atmosphere are overrated. I got home, took a run and cleaned up and dressed for the ballpark, grabbed my go bag with computer, lipstick, notepads, pens, hairbrush, Altoids, and antacids and headed down I-30 to see what flak awaited me. (She had tried to do the same thing at the Boston Globe, but could not get past security.) We're sitting around the salon one day making bets on when the rest of the country will catch on that Ross Perot is a weasel when someone says he finished ahead of Bush and Clinton in another poll. That's before they tell me I don't have any business in the locker room. Am I right? It was very business-like. Another superior had his assistant let me off early so he could be waiting for me in the parking lot. We shagged foul balls, but in retrospect, I guess we were more decorative than functional. The Rangers treat me like anyone else who wanders in. The old Never let them see you sweat adage was thrown out the window and I was dripping angst from my brow. Bill, how did Michele do on our quiz? She is a frequent guest speaker at schools and colleges, and active in public schools' mentoring program for girls who hope to study journalism. NFL Network Airs Interview With Naked Players In Background. He said he would have me thrown out physically. Ines Sainz, a reporter for Mexico's TV Azteca doing a story on quarterback Mark Sanchez, had footballs thrown in her direction by a Jets coach during practice, and players later called out to her in the team's locker room. "He just doesn't" was suddenly sufficient and I knew a grown-up secret, like writing checks, making babies, or reading words. So why are they going to think the reporter is any different at first? SAGAL: What's the worst reaction you've ever gotten in that situation? After the initial averting of my eyes, I noticed a member of USCs staff naked as well, and it then occurred to me; after you see one naked butt, they all start to look the same. You know when the line has been crossed because you know about the culture that youve entered . Women did not get equal access to post-game locker room interviews until a federal court decision in 1978. Reporters do not need to be in the locker room. Its my fault, Walsh said, his eyes still glistening. Readmore, With the 65th overall pick, the Rangers chose Adam Tambellini, a 6-foot-2 center whose father and brother each played for the Islanders. One of my greatest honors. Gerry Fraley of The Dallas Morning News was the only other writer in the press box. SAGAL: All right. Then there was the time we had a story about an SWC coach paying players, and I appeared one morning at the school where he was an assistant. A few minutes later he came back out wearing a towel. SAGAL: I was just thinking about with the NBA, it would be more difficult because you need to think about what would be at eye level in that situation. Friends at Bible study ask if the players are mean to me. On Tuesday, Portis told 106.7 The Fan that both players and female reporters have wandering eyes when the sexes are mixed in a locker room setting. She had few female colleagues in sports media to lean on. We lived in Arlington, about five miles from the ball park. You get a really honest reaction, and thats what makes stories good. I said, "Well, you better get used to it now, because there are women all over clubhouses in the big leagues. She faced off against the MLB commissioner and won access a year later, but the . So everyone's kind of shuffling around. During my first four years at the Star-Telegram I took one day off to model at an auto show and five days off to get married. Olson's ordeal was mentioned (although without her name, referring to her only as "a Boston Globe reporter") in the Sports Night Season One episode "Mary Pat Shelby," in which Natalie Hurley was assaulted in a locker room by football star Christian Patrick. Or like Brandon Grahams locker is next to mine, and he has 40 reporters around him, and someone is bumping into my naked ass. And there, not 1,000 days after I had emerged from the darkness of the womb, hundreds of bright light bulbs made me squint as I watched the first half-inning of my life, the last three outs of a Spurs game. "The locker room is the place where us guys, us football players, we dress, we shower, we're naked, we're walking around and we're bombarded by media," he told NBC Chicago. In 1978, Sports Illustrated reporter Melissa Ludtke won the right to practice journalism in the locker room of the New York Yankees, securing equal access to cover the same sports teams and. He said he was 16. But there's a strange sort of comfort in feeling that if they think I'm an idiot, it's probably not because I'm a woman but because I'm just acting like an idiot. It's the reason I'm a sportswriter, and I learned it from my dad. I want you guys here when I make the game-winning kicks, and I realize that I got to have you guys here when I miss them. SAGAL: B, George Washington himself went on a three-day bender there. He had leis, candles, and the whole altar thing going on in his locker. Locker room interviews that take place after professional sports . I wonder how these female reporters and staff would feel showering and changing with men in their locker room? They were reporters and looked young enough to remind me of my old daysexcept they weren't wearing white flats. That's when a security guard came up to me to ask why I was there. Some simply called me a "stupid bitch" and hung up. When you've got dirt on them, all the condescending good-ol'-boy stuff goes out the window. Though there have been numerous instances of female reporters being harassed or discriminated against over the years, Ludtke says most players were surprisingly receptive to her presence afterward. Television. Your job is sort of provide on-field commentary. Melissa Ludtke was 26 years old when all this took place. That's another thing that has changed. But on top of it being my first foray behind the red door, I was scared because of who I was interviewing: a superstar with a surly streak. According to NBCChicago.com, Harris believes both members of the media and athletes should conduct themselves in a professional manner - gender aside. Kids at the tanning salon want to know if I date the players. My daddy and I saw our first major-league game together on Opening Night here in 1972. The bouncing, wide-eyed ball girl who wanted to write about baseball more than anything was gone, abandoned in increments on football fields, at locker room doors, in editors' offices, and on barstools. Oh equality indeed. But I was humbled by the honor. Forty years ago today, "Sports Illustrated" and its reporter Melissa Ludtke took on Major League Baseball and won. Oh sure, they may actually think I'm an idiot. I seriously considered taking a job as a researcher for a law firm. Those memories dont come cheap, of course. I head down the steps, past the seats where I couldn't even afford to sit when I was a kid, open heaven's gate, and walk onto the field. He sobbed at his locker for 15 minutes after the game, as ESPNs Kevin Seifert wrote, later facing a gaggle of reporters. For a minute, before I start to work, I smell the bubble gum in the breeze and look at the kids leaning over the dugout and the boys of summer in it. That seemed like such a dumb thing to say. This blogs regular features, including live game analysis, reader discussion, news and notes from Jeff Z. Klein and others, can now be found on the Hockey section front. The more we try to know about our sporting heroes, the less they tell us. She was a member of the first class of women at Princeton University. We both approached the front desk, where the clerk sided with the guard, saying I could remain for 10 more minutes, but only if I stayed out of the central lobby and remained "mobile." Family trips in an egg-shell-white Impala to see the cousins in Plainview took fewer rough turns. It may have been his first night. If you dont understand that, particularly as a woman, you might misinterpret it.. If I ever dread talking to players now, it is not because I feel that I don't belong there. She is an American humorist and sportswriter who now does reviews for Publishers Weekly and writes for a variety of publications, including the Dallas Observer, Fort Worth Star-Telegram, USA Today, and Sports Illustrated. Then it hits me: My job means I get to be around this game and write about it. Were you a football fan growing up? In 1975, the NHL allowed New York Times reporter Robin Herman into the men's locker room, making her the first woman to enter a hockey team clubhouse. As usual, several radio guys lined up behind me. The reasoning behind this policy is that players are more likely to be relaxed and open with reporters after they have had a chance to cool down and take a shower. SAGAL: Michele Tafoya, we're delighted to have you with us. I stopped myself because he might not take it right. I told her I hadn't heard about it, but would let her know, assuring her I would be the last to know if I had been fired. He was thrilled to get an interview, and was so polite and warm, I didnt realize he was wearing practically nothing while I spoke with him. The hockey teams locker room isnt as rancid as expected. I cant really think of something else thats similar to this, Bailey said. He shook his head and said, "No, I didn't say that.". Show More. Fear of the unknown tends to do that to you. Should women be allowed in locker rooms? SAGAL: So you are and have been for how long now, the sideline on-field reporter for NBC's "Sunday Night Football"? SAGAL: We'll be back in a minute with more of WAIT WAITDON'T TELL ME! The only way a female reporter can do her job in a locker room is if the players dont look at her as a chick. Horse's Heinie on occasion, was watching a college football game in a chair in the middle of it allnaked. The media circus surrounding professional sports is fed in part by this particularly odd sort of press access. Its all weve ever known, right wing Josh Bailey, wearing a blue Islanders shirt, skin-tight compression shorts, and knee-high athletic socks, told me after a practice last week. Its no big deal, and if you don't believe me, watch The Full Monty a couple of timesit gets old real fast and you don't even notice it anymore. My most innocent comments were greeted with sexual innuendo. The NFL launched an investigation into the incident after Sainz, a veteran reporter, claimed footballs were thrown in her direction by a Jets coach during a practice - seemingly deliberately -. I've wanted to write stories about baseball since I was 10 years oldto write words so good that people would read them twice. And I wanted to cover the Rangers someday. Late one night in spring training, one of my co-workers, also one of my best friends, called to read me something. And blocked by virtue of being a woman Melissa Ludtke's landmark. But the most moving were the ones who said something along the lines of, "Well, I just want you to know, if I ever had anything to do with any of that, I'm sorry. And his eyes got to be like the size of paper plates because what I didn't notice was that he was buck naked. The potential downside of the setting, meanwhile, is obvious: A poorly framed NFL Network shot this year showed Cincinnati Bengals players, pictured over the interview subjects shoulder, unknowingly giving viewers the full monty. That's something he'd say to anyone, I realized. I herby officially declare this behavior: Sign up for Parx Sportsbook and deposit $25 using code WOLVES69, Very real and legitimate journalist | Wednesday Guest Host of The Daily Ticket w/ Sean Brace from 3-6 pm on Fox Sports "The Gambler" | I don't see a loss on the schedule | @ryanconway76. I wanted to know these 4 things: 1. Her work has been featured in the anthology, "The Best American Sports Writing". Her work has been featured in the anthology, "The Best American Sports Writing". So I remain cautious, probably overly cautious, about appearances. August 12, 2011 / 12:24 PM Not just people while Im pulling my pants up. Her tires were slashed, she received hate mail and death threats, and her apartment was burglarized. If my mom made us go to Wyatt's for supper, my father would wear his primitive Walkman through the serving line, once scaring the meat lady by hollering, "Dadgum Toby Harrah!" Youve got limited time to talk to the players before they leave, so make hay or fail is my mantra. That did it; now they were ready to call the police. Alabama Phenix. Last night's trash still blows, even though people are sweeping all over the place. ", I falter, and he complains, "Hey, I thought you said you knew sports.". It would be the last day ever for those white shoesand my first of many covering professional sports. But some paranoia lingers. Jerseys are on the floor, not on the playersno jerseys, no name tags, just toweled dudes walking around. ", Because his reaction to my question was to begin raising his voice to say, "There's no time.". [4] Robert Perryman did the same while her back was turned. [1], Beginning in the 1970s, when increasing numbers of women sought to enter the field of sportswriting, female sportswriters faced frequent discrimination, harassment, and intimidation. In exchange for their candor I have agreed to keep them anonymous. 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