So, of course the folks at the Vivarium asked him. And those lucky ones, according to Darwin's theory, they would have had to have been born with some random mutation in their genes That gave them an advantage in this situation. Let me say this again. That was nice. CARL ZIMMER: He was revealing it with experiments. JAD: And what about the four kids that weren't raised with Barbara? BARBARA HARRIS: This is 750 and this is 200. ROBERT: That's Sam Kean again. She and I snuck away from the children into her office. But she says she doesn't feel that way anymore. Radiolab is a radio program broadcast on public radio stations in the United States, and a podcast available internationally, both produced by WNYC.Hosted by Jad Abumrad, Latif Nasser and Lulu Miller, each episode focuses on a topic of a scientific and philosophical nature, through stories, interviews, and thought experiments.. I want her to be able to look back on her life one day, maybe when she's getting interviewed, I don't know, and be able to say that, "Yes, my mom was there for me 100% without a doubt." That's what I remember her saying. JAD: Who now works at Columbia University. I already knew that if I ever got a little girl, I was going to name her Destiny. I went to the hospital and picked him up. ROBERT: Because it's got the thing stuck to it? You can't change your DNA. ROBERT: Are you near the Arctic Circle or OLOV BYGREN: My home village was 10 miles North of polar circle. Yes, he was retarded. LYNN PALTROW: I think I was really horrified and terrified. And there were from the beginning. Kinda makes me claustrophobic. But that you supposedly can't get to. [ARCHIVAL CLIP, BARBARA HARRIS: I feel that they should all be sterilized. I like you, I get the sense that there's a lot of warmth in you. Is that too old?" She said, "Well, she's just beautiful and she has lips like a baby doll." And that number, by the way, has grown a lot. Move on to the next cage, yes, no? To build these terrariums and aquariums and stock them with animals. Assuming that you can survive the ordeal, and you grow up, and you have kids of your own, the data seems to say that your kids will benefit from your suffering. CARL ZIMMER: He actually named his daughter Lacerta, which is a genus of lizard. As a parent, you are a tiny blip in a very, very, long story. JAD: What can't you? But I take it that we have more control over our destinies and our kids' destinies than we would've thought. He's not even eating at all. Support Radiolab by becoming a member of The Lab today. The cheapest estimate is the work that needs to be done in 14 days. I mean, for one thing, Barbara's white and Destiny's black. How old are your boys right now? PAT: But at that point just two of the six boys were living at home, Brian and Rodney. Then, Carl told us about this research that showed Well, he couldn't quite remember the details. She'll be two in January. FRANCES CHAMPAGNE: You know, you've got all these chemicals around. So, the thought is, when those little boys in verkalix were really, really hungry, their hunger started a chemical process that reached all the way down to the DNA inside the boy's sperm. CARL ZIMMER: Well, it was a zoo where there was all sorts of experiments going on. PAT: For me, this whole story really shifted PAT: When I started spending some time with Destiny, Barbara's 22-year-old daughter. Yeah. It was something they acquired during their lifetime. CARL ZIMMER: Is your wife going to hear this? Radiolab is a radio program broadcast on public radio stations in the United States, and a podcast available internationally, both produced by WNYC.Hosted by Latif Nasser and Lulu Miller, each episode focuses on a topic of a scientific and philosophical nature, through stories, interviews, and thought experiments.. Radiolab's broadcast edition airs as an hour-long program each week while the . ], [ARCHIVAL CLIP, BARBARA HARRIS: That's their choice, but the babies don't have a choice.]. Like. Which, when you think about it, it has a very Lamarckian flavor. DESTINY HARRIS: Taylor Swift's Never Getting Back Together. PAT: Which I find kind of hard to believe but, then again, I must have read at least 100 news articles as I was reporting this story. Well, I guess I was thinking we could just start at the beginning. BARBARA HARRIS: "She's born and tested positive for PCP crack and heroin." ROBERT: Although, you know, sometimes that your grandfather's suffering helps you. DESTINY HARRIS: As you can see, I like to talk. Everybody we talked to seems to think there's something really interesting going on here. Get personalized recommendations, and learn where to watch across hundreds of streaming providers. ROBERT: Inheritance, what you can move on to the next generation and what you can't. Whole lifetime of stretching. I want to start with a parental day dream for a second. You picked him up right from the hospital? Where we sought, they will find. I mean, yes, I might get a great family, but I might not. Push yourself and you got it.". JAD: Theyd basically starve. You just have to weigh it, is it worth it? OLOV BYGREN: Well, for cardiovascular disease JAD: Olov told us, take heart disease. That was it. So. PAT: Yeah. Through all the training that we had to do and first aid, fingerprinted and had a background check done. Serotonin gets into the brain cells, and according to Michael unleashes A whole series of molecular events inside the cell. PAT: Barbara tried to get a law passed requiring just that. View Radiolab_-_Inheritance_Questions.docx from BISC MISC at University of Mississippi. PAT: Yeah. Maybe like those methyl things we were telling you about with the rats. I ended up finding myself really conflicted about it. VERONICA ZIMMER: My name is Veronica Zimmer. So she told me Barbara had another baby and Did we want it? So Barbara and her son got in the car and drove across town to the foster home where Destiny had been living for the past eight months. Barbara tried to get a law passed requiring just that. According to Frances, it's not just sitting up there perfectly preserved, it's in the middle of the cell, it's crowded. And he would basically turn the heat way, way up in these aquariums until they had to go underwater. ROBERT: Instead of dying at 40, I'd live to 70? And at first, it didn't go so well because, you know, if you're a land toad and you're trying to have sex in the water, it's kind of hard. I think all parents do this, is that you slip into this Lamarckian delusion that What you do with your kids can somehow rewrite all of that. So here's what you're going to notice. ], That's their choice, but the babies don't have a choice.]. JAD: These were kids that didn't end up with Barbara? FRANCES CHAMPAGNE: You have to look at one cage, say, are they licking? They have found very similar effects for smoking, for instance. Hosted by Jad Abumrad and Robert Krulwich, Radiolab is a " show about curiosity " that examines science, history, and philosophy to answer the big questions about life. ROBERT: [laughs] We now know that thats not the case. PEJK MALINOVSKI: And we have a lot more grain here. The lady knew why we were there. LULU: And were trying to think about how do we keep it the same in a lot of ways, but also how do we let it grow into something beyond what it was originally built to be. And so, they bring MICHAEL MEANEY: A lot of friends to the party. [ARCHIVAL CLIP, Jad Abumrad: Do you see the owl?]. But this was a really, really tough place to grow up. I should add too. JAD: How do these simple little traits get passed forward? And, you know, there was kind of antisemitism growing at this time, so he thought that someone had framed him, and six weeks after Nobel published his results in Nature, Kammerer sent a letter to Moscow. But with the midwife toad, the female SAM KEAN: Lays her eggs on land and then the male midwife toad comes along SAM KEAN: And actually kind of sticks them to his back legs, like a bunch of whitish grapes, and then hops around with them basically until they hatch. BARBARA HARRIS: Saying the mother had given birth to a baby girl, did we want her? And I think that no, I didn't plan on it but I wouldn't take her back for anything because she made me better. It's only the mechanisms are not so clear. What a name, you've got to like this guy. Environmental Biology Radiolab - Inheritance Due to Haiku by Monday March 3rd Name: Dmitry Matveev Date: Lots of money. PAT: And by this point, she's 37 years old. BARBARA HARRIS: They were seven and eight at the time. And if you were eating a whole lot between 9 and 12, one-quarter. Because while you might have a lot of influence, you know, genetically speaking, over your kids and their kids, you don't seem to have a lot of control. ROBERT: You mean, if you had a starving grandfather, you would be a healthier boy for the because you had a starving grandfather? Like have you ever had one of those moments where you suddenly are your dad and it catches you off guard? I'm Sam Kean's dad. She should be with me. My name is Veronica Zimmer. Listen to the first three stories of the "Inheritance" Radiolab Podcast (Control + click on link to access podcast. We neuter them.". Now, according to Carl, your genes are still fixed. Did you know there is a part of this show is gonna be like crazy breaking news, like happened yesterday and we already have a deep take on it? ROBERT: Which, when you think about it, it has a very Lamarckian flavor. And one of them is called the thyroid system. And um Doctors would later explain to Barbara that Destiny's mom had been addicted to drugs while she was pregnant. Thanks to Olov Bygren, reporter Pejk Malinovski and Karin Borgkvist Ljung, and I'm a senior archivist at the National Archive in Marieberg in Stockholm. Or very many of them right at all, but, you know, his basic idea seems to be true. Listen Feb 10, 2023 Bliss When did you last shout from happiness? ROBERT: Cause we were talking to science writer, Carl Zimmer, and he told us that back in the early 1900s, this tension between Lamarck and Darwin got extra tense. We went to the foster home and went in. They present previous theories on evolution and then present the currently accepted Darwinian Theory of Evolution. Once a kid is born, their genetic fate is pretty much sealed. I got to say this is spooky. Its gonna get messy. We'll just get one more.". I mean, the idea that they could be constrained by their DNA, that maybe one of us gave them a bit of DNA thats gonna hold them back? PAT: So by now it's 1994, and Barbara is thinking PAT: You know? MICHAEL MEANEY: Yep, Im a professor in the faculty of medicine at McGill University in Montreal. PAT: So Barbara and her son got in the car and drove across town to the foster home where Destiny had been living for the past eight months. I mean, when you look at the records, you don't see huge spikes in mortality. I said, "This will be the last one. They have six, seven, eight, ten, fourteen.]. That tongue is doing something to the DNA. And she's a complete nut. Maybe they'd try and jump back out, but it was still hot so they'd have to jump back in. PEJK MALINOVSKI: This is the verkalix church parish record. They would experience these wild changes from harvest to harvest. So then the one that's in trouble, so thats one of, So I guess you could say to yourself, "Seven out of eight of these kids did all right?". And The other day someone was whistling and I was like, "Stop it", and it just hit me, I was like, "Oh God, I was him", it's never appeared until now. When rats have more of this protein, they will act more motherly. CARL ZIMMER: More information about Sloan at JAD: Yeah, we're exploring questions of lwhat can you pass down to your kids and their kids? DESTINY HARRIS: Not been born at all. PAT: So we did stop. ROBERT: Truth is, we dont know precisely how this happens but somehow the experience of starvation marks the DNA. I'm in public health. ROBERT: Which turn out to be an interesting thing to look at it because the people in verkalix who were farming SAM KEAN: Trying to eke a living out of the soil. She should be with me. She carries your kids for nine months and you're like, "That poor male toad.". "To Whom It May Concern, I have been doing very good. CARL ZIMMER: You're now hearing Lamarck's name invoked these days because there are things beyond genes that we pass down to our children. If your grandpa didn't starve, instead he lived through great times. SAM KEAN: If you have a starving daddy, it turns out that the baby actually gets some sort of health benefit. I think the Swedish data are really, really strong, and very reliable. ROBERT: By all accounts a pretty good-looking guy. FRANCES CHAMPAGNE: So, we have our rats in the lab and JAD: They thought, "Let's just see if we can figure out how it is the rat mothers pass down their parenting skills?". I had asked for a newborn, so when the social worker called me, she said, "I have this cute little baby girl for you but she's eight months old. Visit our website terms of use at www.wnyc.org for further information. And Barbara is not offering that. Or does it get passed on such a deep level that doesn't even require teaching? I just got custody of my eight-year-old son. PAT: All these women who have so many babies and never try to seek drug treatment. His example with humans was a blacksmith. They lived longer lives, something like 30 years on average. That's the stuff that makes you you. And he says, "This isn't a nuptial pad, it looks darkened but that's just ink.". ", And I called my husband again at work and said, "They want to know if we want to take the baby." She said, "Thank you so much for the gift, I bought my son an excavator truck, remote control and some summer outfits." He thought it worked with humans, too. You cant say that. [chuckles]. Okay, well of them, don't really know what happened to her. They've seen it and they've repeated the experience. And as of 11:01 a.m. on Tuesday, when were recording this, we have not broken the show. OLOV BYGREN: They didn't have grains. JAD: I want to start with a parental day dream for a second. ROBERT: Meaning that they had less incidence of heart disease? Move on to the next cage, yes, no? Well, its offensive. I'm Carl Zimmer's daughter. If you have a starving daddy, it turns out that the baby actually gets some sort of health benefit. ], [ARCHIVAL CLIP, BARBARA HARRIS: I'm going to go out into the streets and offer addicted women money to use birth control. One time, and I'm on flighter. So here's what you're going to notice. PAT: Right away, people accused her of targeting women at their weakest moment and enabling their drug abuse. So much can happen after that. PAT: She just knew, "This is my daughter.". Destiny says one day, she and her mom were in the car, and her mom said She said, "I don't know, you know, maybe they'll grow bigger? ROBERT: What a name, you've got to like this guy. FRANCES CHAMPAGNE: You would be licking them quite a lot. BARBARA HARRIS: Yes, she has the same name as me. How do these simple little traits get passed forward? Okay, and then I just had to accept it. But if you've got a mom who licks you. "To Whom It May Concern, I have been doing very good. And since Kammerer kept the heat up, toads basically had to stay there, in this watery place that they had not evolved for. Researchers have found evidence of structural. We ask deep questions and use investigative journalism to get the answers. JAD: So I guess you could say to yourself, "Seven out of eight of these kids did all right?". JAD: Plus, you know, Lamarck didn't get all the biological details right. We inherited this beloved show that we first fell in love with as listeners. PAT: Isaiah would sleep and he would scream. She started to wish again that she could have a daughter. Sat her on my lap, with her little dress on and her little curly hair. I'm the founder and director of Project Prevention. What they decided to do first was to try to figure out which rat was which, which meant, interestingly, counting all the legs. DESTINY HARRIS: Oh my goodness. [ARCHIVAL Clip, News: Who, together, pledged more than $150,000 to her program.]. As he's doing his rounds, he stops by the midwife toad terrarium, he looks down at that little male toad with grapes stuck to his legs and he wonders, "How adaptable is that little guy?" What do I know? ], I'd like everybody to meet, please, Barbara Harris. Or is it? ROBERT: But then, a few years would pass, crops would bounce back. But luckily for the Vivarium and for our story, they had a guy. Looking for patterns in cardiovascular diseases, high blood pressure, and such. And the incredible thing is, those marks stick around. In this magazine article, Barbara even said, quote, "We don't allow dogs to breed. But were getting ahead of ourselves here. TRANSCRIPTS. So thats the reason, of course, that we work with rats because we can get inside the brain. JAD: That is impossible, so far as we know, but there seems to be this layer on top of the genes. It takes a while. Like, "How did this happen? CARL ZIMMER: Around 1908, he started publishing all of these results. ROBERT: Do you know anything about the other four? I guess retard. I mean, yes, I might get a great family, but I might not. Yes. And since Kammerer kept the heat up, toads basically had to stay there, in this watery place that they had not evolved for. ROBERT: Rewrite their their blueprint? [ARCHIVAL CLIP, Jad Abumrad: Whats that called?]. [1] Radiolab was founded by Jad Abumrad and Robert Krulwich in 2002. JAD: What's he talking about? Where sound illuminates ideas, and the boundaries blur between science, philosophy, and human experience. A lot of times that's not the case. That is a bad way to start a kid's life but that's just the beginning of the kid's life. PAT: Just a little. ROBERT: So then the one that's in trouble, so thats one of one of eight? Riksarkivet. Are you nine? You mean, if you had a starving grandfather, you would be a healthier boy for the because you had a starving grandfather? PAT: And she says oftentimes the women who want help have a really hard time finding it. DESTINY HARRIS: Yes. It happens. At this really marvelous place called the Vivarium. PAT: That's really impressive. ROBERT: Well, lets not get too excited too fast because we have a story to tell and this tale leaves me a little queasy. ROBERT: It's a little odd, actually. They willed the neck to get longer, the muscles to get bigger. And when methyl groups stick to that part of the DNA, the maternal instinct is effectively turned off. Apparently, those grandkids SAM KEAN: Were less prone to diabetes. She started to wish again that she could have a daughter. My situation turned out positive. No, not brain cells. A given episode might whirl you through science, legal history, and into the home of someone halfway across the world. CARL ZIMMER: He was mighty skeptical. Were there any consequences? It was this struggle for a few years. ], [ARCHIVAL Clip, Daytime Talkshow: You get them $200 each, which they can spend on crack. Covid has disrupted the most basic routines of our days and nights. OLOV BYGREN: Well, the DNA, the RNA, micro-RNAs, histone. Just a little. On the Radiolab website they define the show as follows: "Radiolab is a show about curiosity. There's going to be this massacre of toads and only a few lucky ones are going to survive. The way she saw it, the state, the federal government, somebody Should say, "You're not doing this. When they got another call from a social worker saying that same mother, Destiny's birth mother, had given birth to another child. JAD: No, not brain cells. It might be a mixture. PAT: You picked him up right from the hospital? When Kammerer published his results initially, a bunch of scientists immediately began to say "Wait a minute, hold on here, it would be nice if life was like that but life isn't like that. LYNN PALTROW: The women who I've worked with, who've had a history of drug problems, aren't like the examples that she gives. PAT: A year later, she gets another call. This was a really radical place at the time because you have to remember that people studying animals up till now, they were basically studying preserved specimens, and so on. The neural chemical signal that gets activated during licking, is serotonin. Kammerer, for one, was sent off to work as a sensor for the Austrian military. JAD: Don't you see, somehow the mother's tongue is getting all the way down in there and going [mumbles] and messing with the baby's DNA. JAD: Do you have any theories for how this tongue is tickling the DNA, or whatever it's doing? You know, when smart people say, you know, "There's no such thing as nature and nurture it's only interaction of the two," You're like, "What the hell does that mean?" PAT: And she told Barbara, "There's something you need to know about this baby.". And when she had a baby. And he was going through withdrawal. PAT'S MOM: Radiolab is produced by Jad Abumrad. Plus, find other cool things we did in the past like miniseries, music videos, short films and animations, behind-the-scenes features, Radiolab live shows, and more. It's a small forest area, very beautiful. He extended this idea to people. That is impossible, so far as we know, but there seems to be this layer on top of the genes. CARL ZIMMER: He's 22, 23, and he already had this reputation for being amazing at keeping animals alive, that otherwise would just die. PAT: And Barbara found herself returning to a thought she'd kind of always had. JAD: Thanks to Frances Champagne and Michael Meany and Sam Kean, who writes about Paul Kammerer in his book, The Violinist's Thumb. PAT: And in 1989, when the story we're telling now started, she was living in California, in Orange County. I mean, when you think of Kammerer, there was a report in science outlining a theory about how Kammerer's toads got these characteristics that invoked these epigenetic inheritance and imprinted genes and it made it plausible. ROBERT: Frankly, this makes being 9, 10, 11, 12 like a rather crucial. ROBERT: So, somehow, by some chemical mechanism, starving grandpa, back when he was about 9 to 12 years old, turned out to be a good thing. You must have internet access to do this). Okay, you want to say bye? I feel that they should all be sterilized. Then, Carl told us about this research that showed JAD: Well, he couldn't quite remember the details. Well, that's the good news, but unfortunately there is some bad news here. Yeah, like you can help them overcome you. He was really one of the first grand theorists in biology. Turning down a job that they'd offered him. We had an expression here, "Dig where you stand." BARBARA HARRIS: Light bothered him, noise bothered him. JAD: And very often, one of them will just go crashing into the DNA and it'll stick there like a barnacle or a glob of peanut butter. So that was just funny to me. CARL ZIMMER: This second channel of heredity. Were just talking about toad, I thought. JAD: I initially felt very hopeful and excited about this research because it seems to suggest that a body, one body can respond to an environment and change and be flexible in a way we didn't think was possible. [ARCHIVAL CLIP, Jad Abumrad: Well lets lets read the book first. I wonder. JAD: Just to be sure, we asked Frances Champagne what she thinks of this data. He was just You know, most babies are kinda peaceful, he was never really peaceful. This week The Science Show introduces Radiolab from WNYC in New York City. He's the guy who told us about Olov's work. Completely answer all questions in Section I AND Section IV. That's Sam Kean again. I have to be creative.". PAT: Did that scare you at all? I didn't see them as people. Who are they? PEJK MALINOVSKI: Here we have how much they harvested. That doesn't matter. So yeah, she keeps me busy. The kingdom archive. The bit of DNA that will give this baby when it grows up the instincts to be nice to its baby, and lick that baby. There was a newspaper called The Daily Express and they have these headlines that come out. You must have internet access to do this). It does, it does make kind of a folk sense. I'm Sam Kean's dad. JAD: Well think about what makes proteins. Higher frequencies of heart attacks. You know, just take a little peek for themselves, and every time Kammerer said no, they were his specimens. [ARCHIVAL Clip, Panel: You don't think that they should have their children back?]. It's just a mind crushing tedium. I just didnt think. Methyl groups are pretty sticky, they're hard to get off. The event that really sets this story in motion, the set of events, happened a few months after Barbara had brought Destiny home. JAD: Thanks to Olov Bygren, reporter Pejk Malinovski and KARIN BORGKVIST LJUNG: Karin Borgkvist Ljung, and I'm a senior archivist at the National Archive in Marieberg in Stockholm. JAD: When rats have more of this protein, they will act more motherly. Because it would reflect badly on the Soviet state. They suddenly had to get by on a tiny fraction of the food that they were used to. Here, Kammerer's was saying, "You can do this even on a physical level.". Well, I just want to eliminate drug-addicted babies from being born. [foreign language]. BARBARA HARRIS: And I knew that the only way I was going to get a daughter was if I went and became a foster parent and asked for one. Visited Kammerer's lab when Kammerer wasn't there. ROBERT: That's interesting. ], [ARCHIVAL CLIP, Jad Abumrad: How bout this one?]. And Barbara is not offering that. LULU: So far. It says, "Race of Supermen." Here's what Olov says he found in the data. In my naive mind, I didn't have a clue what a big deal this was. But what exactly. BARBARA HARRIS: I mean, I'm married to a Black man. She was totally an oops kid. Thank you so much for your interest in Radiolab. Listen Jan 20, 2023 ], [ARCHIVAL Clip, Panel: What's the worst thing you have been called by one of your critics? We actually sent our friend, Pejk Malinovski, to the archives in Stockholm to check it out. In just two generations, these toads seem to have done something that should have taken, I don't know, 50, 100 generations? BARBARA HARRIS: It was just no baby should have to come into the world like that. JAD: And then, Michael just launched into this thing. JAD: Many years later, he and this woman. Lamarck said, You wanna know how a giraffe got its long neck?, One day this giraffe, mother giraffe, lets say, was looking up in the tree and saw some fruit, and had to stretch he neck, and stretch again. I dont know. JAD: Famine again, and these changes would just bounce back and forth. I mean, were not gonna do that ourselves. A really good radiolab about this called Inheritance. The show is known for innovative sound design, smashing information into music. [laughs[ So yeah, it's embarrassing, but I believe everything happens for a reason. Move on to the next cage yes, no? BARBARA HARRIS: Barbara Harris. But here's what I did not know about DNA. PEJK MALINOVSKI: He was an idiot. Your support helps Radiolab continue to provoke, delight, and keep audiences curious. OLOV BYGREN: The results are quite obvious. JAD: Now, according to Carl, your genes are still fixed. JAD: Turning down a job that they'd offered him. CARL ZIMMER: And he says, "This isn't a nuptial pad, it looks darkened but that's just ink.". Last I heard she was living on the streets in LA. SAM KEAN: Well, he thought it might have been an assistant trying to frame him because he was Jewish. You can imagine these toads are like, "Dammit, fine. And to believe anything else, that's naive. Listen Feb 3, 2023 Ukraine: The Handoff Pregnancy, and choice, in a war. JAD: See, this is the story of science that doesn't get told. You can't see that on the radio but, hey, it's a fact of life. So FRANCES CHAMPAGNE: So we start looking at maternal care. LYNN PALTROW: Are there people whose drug use is so out of control they can't parent? Yeah. The little baby that we keep hearing in the background of everything. But with the midwife toad, the female Lays her eggs on land and then the male midwife toad comes along And actually kind of sticks them to his back legs, like a bunch of whitish grapes, and then hops around with them basically until they hatch. JAD: And at first, it didn't go so well because, you know, if you're a land toad and you're trying to have sex in the water, it's kind of hard. Radiolab: Parasites Transcript For copyright reasons we can't provide a transcript of the WNYC Radiolab feature on parasites. So by now it's 1994, and Barbara is thinking You know? You know, they say it only takes one time. He's not even eating at all. CARL ZIMMER: You know, the fact is that taking care of animals, trying to keep them alive in a building is not an easy thing, especially if it's 1903. And in1923, he actually comes to England. Just don't have any more children because, at that point, I didn't really know any of them. 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