No, I went back the next day. So I ended up serving in this job for 12 or 13 months, and I had a very disciplined approach to it. Altman ran the White House war room during last They talked all the time. I divided my time between the transition office and the Treasury. She herself has expressed regret over them. So that, despite the extraordinary achievement it really was, I think may be seen by history as a small achievement. Its the biggest story in Washington, Hillary Clinton, the whole thing. Then, in 1995, he formed Evercore. I started having to respond with a standard boilerplate response to the effect that the RTC has these procedural options and we were choosing among them. I made two trips to Little Rock. But by historians. But it was a mixture of considerable travel, considerable speaking, lots of radio and television shows, in some cases done locallyin other words, youre in St. Louis, youre doing them, or, alternatively from Washington where you go over to the White House and sit on a chair and do seven satellite feeds in a row, or five radio shows, or what have you. What was different about it was that it worked, because most of them had been somewhat dysfunctional. But its just a reality that in an economy of that size, spending changes arent going to have much effect on the economy; monetary changes can. I should have said I was either going to or not going to, but anywaySo that meeting came and went and at least nobody at the Treasury thought much about it. No, what Im trying to say is that there were several points of view advanced by some of the people there, who had, in one form or another, policy experience. Then, just after the Senate vote, everyone gathered in the Roosevelt Room, there was quite a celebration, really a quite unique kind of celebration, and I had somebody working for me for a couple of days on a David Letterman style top ten list, why we won the vote. Some of them I think were insincere, but many of them were sincere. Today, Evercore is the fourth-largest investment banking advisory firm in the world, with more than 130 partners and over 2,100 employees. I wasnt telling him anything he didnt know, God knows, but that we were going to enter now a different phase in terms of the laser light of press scrutiny on policies and that we had to deepen the entire effort, and there was agreement on that. You say he didnt inspire fierce loyalty amongst a lot of his subordinates, but interestingly, I think a lot of the senior Cabinet members lasted a long time, I mean, they stayed for muchDonna Shalala was Secretary for eight years, Rubin was in for a long time, given the fact that his family didnt move to Washington. So Japan arguably has been in a 12- or 14-year slump, but at that time the weakness in the Japanese economy was seen as just cyclical, not structural. But thats what Congress guys wanted. He predicted them. The Federal Government doesnt have much of a role in education. It was going to be a different kind of animal. I mean, he seemed to be quite consistent about that, even though the rest of the field was, as I recall, quite a bit more protectionist. We had some serious issues with the IRS. So if Clinton and Burns ever had any conversations, they certainly didnt communicate, Im sure. I was not involved in the decision as to the sequencing of healthcare versus welfare reform. No, I did not. Could you tell us what your portfolio was within Treasury and what your primary responsibilities were? Does that resonate with you? Last weekend, Roger Altman was back at his ranch in Wyomings Jackson Hole, looking tanned and relaxed, entertaining friends like White House chief economist Help us understand why he would elect to move NAFTA at this point? You had made your choice to support him before it was clear that he was going to wow a lot of people in New York. Why a war room? The difficulties that you had were primarily generated by Congressional investigators then, rather than the independent counsel. I talk to the President now from time to time with some frequency. There just wasnt a candidate who had the capability to do that. You can see it in real life at 3901 S. Michigan Avenue, about 20 minutes from the But its the economy, stupid doesnt communicate a set of priorities within the administration about what steps they will take. For some people the idea was, a southern Governor almost by definition has a better chance than a lot of other candidates. There have been a lot of great American Presidents. Welfare reform is a different issue, though. A lot of people wanted to work on Capitol Hill or think tanks or with interest groups. The questions from all these different parts of the countryOregon, Louisiana, Michiganwere all the same. Its improved a lot since then, now become of course one of the leading universities in the country, but it was not at that time, in fairness. This wont help you because its not very original, but theres something about President Clinton that had the effect of rubbing salt on a wound as far as his opponents were concerned. For example, much has been made of the dueling camps, the deficit hawks versus the populists. By that time we were all being treated very well by the campaign because we were seen as the guys who were there at the beginning. It was an all right agreement. I wasnt directly negotiating them. He didnt like Clintons stimulus program. So I didnt take him seriously except as in a sort of inner political context. The assessment was correct because, I cant recall the size of the economy then, but today it is about $10.7 trillion. I would say presided over, Id have to check the statistics, but probably the greatest period of economic prosperity in the entire century, or ushered in the greatest period of prosperity in the entire century. But that group, top five, or six or seven, just masters of the game. Did you go to Little Rock for the election? In the initial phases it was really broad strategy because we didnt yet know. I dont question the sincerity of every opponent. I took an hour plus to do this. Oh yes, sure. Bentsen had a lucidits hard to describe how lucid Bentsens observations always were. I cant cite the examples that I can cite about the National Economic Council, because I studied that for Clinton, but I doubt it. Oh sure, sure, well have another major Presidential uproar. If I search my memory or some dusty file somewhere, I could probably come up with more names, but it was not a huge group. Did Bentsen then become sort of a one-man legislative strategy group? Do you have anyyou were sort of one of the casualties of this campaign, but was the Whitewater thing separate from this hate stuff? Its rare that an issue divides the Democrats. Roger Altman, chairman and founder at Evercore, discusses the state of the U.S. economy, the four things that need to be included in the next round of stimulus, and Did it come out of Arkansas? That process had been going on. First of all, the actual role of the Deputy Secretary as defined in the Treasury mission statement is to do what the Secretary of the Treasury asks him to. For example, during the Lewinsky matter, the airways were filled with former Clinton officials expounding their views of President Clintons foibles and why he might have done this and this and that. Now, theyre sometimes minor changes that dont require that, but any meaningful change in the later stages required the Presidents approval. But I interpreted that to mean, Maybe you should, because I felt that if he thought I shouldnt, hed say so. When we took office and took a hard look at the deficit estimates, they were considerably worse than we had thought. WebCornerstone Recovering Community (11001 South Wentworth Avenue) located at 11001 South Wentworth Avenue, Chicago, IL 60628, United States is a drug rehab facility Against that test, a noncrisis Presidency, what can they achieve, under the extremely adverse politics of this time, thats been building up. He was a classic, in my book, excellent chief executive. Is this time for horse-trading? Japanese discussions were harder, but the G7 summit was fine, it was easy. The administration made a change in the way economic policy-making was going to be made too, and I think that choice was made during the transition to have a National Economic Council, and that would have been a great unknown given the Treasurys historical role in economic policy-making. You didnt have to spend a lot of time with Lloyd Bentsen to know that he wasnt going to be shunted aside. WebRoger Ebert March 07, 1978. We had to be sure Mexico could live with it. Doing concerted, multilateral action of the type youre referring to is really only appropriate in the midst of a crisis. I think it did. Definitely working on personnel. A lot of the talk was about the public credit markets responding, not so much the Fed. If you go to Monticello, to his actual tombstone, then you know that he drafted his own epitaph: Governor of Virginia, founder of the University of Virginia, and author of the Declaration of Independence. Can you walk us through that? Then later in the process I was asked if I would go do a war room for healthcare of the type we did for the budget. If youre Secretary of X, its pretty easy to become quite happily accustomed to the perquisites of that. How big a group was doing this recasting? Lets face it, I mean, the highlight of that ticket was Bentsen in 1988. So I knew early on, but only because Lloyd Bentsen was in effect telling me. Having watched very carefully what Bob Carswell, who served for three plus years of the four Carter years as Deputy Secretary, did in that role, and that was actually rather different than my role. Roger C. Altman is Founder and Senior Chairman of Evercore, which has become the most active independent investment bank in the world. Right around that time I was put in charge of the Treasury transition. But really, not until the spring of 1991 when I began to hear rumblings that he was thinking of running. Im not sure thats true or it isnt. There was very little interest in that. Chicago, of course, always has been, and they attracted very different students. We were both quite active in student government. So that was the revelation, so to speak, that occurred that day. You know, she made comments like I could have stayed home and baked cookies but I decided to be a real person, which served to severely antagonize a lot of traditionalists. It was killed when Senator [Donald] Riegle, the chairman of the Banking Committee, announced that he would oppose it, so that was the end of that. I believe it was a five-year statute of limitations and the expiration date was January 94 or February or something like that. But therein, to some degree, lay the opportunity for Clinton to re-establish his credentials as a man of conviction. WebKathryn Reed Altman and Roger Altman attend State of the Union Dinner at The Re-Opening of the Plaza Hotel Ballroom on January 28, 2008 in New York Roger Altman and Mayor Michael Bloomberg attend THIRTEEN and WLIW 21 Annual Gala Salute at Gotham Hall on April 30, 2007 in New York City. The IRS employs 120,000 people or so. The Senate Finance Committee is the most powerful committee, Bentsen had been chairman for quite a few years, was seen universally as a very effective, powerful chairman. I was in Tokyo with President Clinton, the Tokyo Economic Summit and Id made several trips to Tokyo paving the way for that. Do you have any recollections of seeing anything different in him as a candidate at that point for that position? So Fiske came to the conclusion that nothing had happened, Starr came to the conclusion nothing had happened, and certainly, if he could have found anything, I think he would have been motivated to push it. He is the only person who has declined because of heath reasons and we wont have the opportunity to talk with him. Howard Paster at the White House, Mike Levy at the Treasury. I think it was obvious to Clinton that there were several serious people there in New York whose support he wanted to get who felt strongly about what I would call a centrist economic policy, perhaps right of center economic policy. The Clinton years were not in any respect unique from that point of view, but that partisanship for some reason or other seems to go in cycles and we just happen to come into office at a time when the cycle was moving up in terms of the scale of partisanship. Chrystia Freeland, Financial Times US managing editor, interviewed Roger Altman, co-CEO of Evercore Partners. My testimony was rather a highlight of that. So people should think of it in those very basic terms, and a lot of people havent and I think less of them for that. I was onboard before then, but at the end of 1991 it would have been Bob Rubin, Ken Brody, me, Stan Shuman. But the tax increasesand there were two main ones, the energy tax and the upper bracket increasewere seen by the Republicans, every last one of them, as unacceptable and became their rallying cry. I think those discussions, including that particular one, in retrospect, had a considerable effect on him. Well, it was just a strange evening. It wasnt going to be a war between the United States and the Soviet Union. Were now in the pre-election period. Did the portfolio members that you were approaching on NAFTA change from the work you were doing. You dont recall the specific occasion when you first met him? So the dynamic between the two was quite an interesting dynamic and quite quicklyto come to your pointafter the stimulus plan went down, Clinton began deferring to Bentsen on everything. Hes chancellor of the Board of Education of New York, hes a good friend of mine, and I had dinner with him about a month ago and I said, Does it make any difference who the President is as far as youre concerned? That was just an amazing experience. Whether his actual conversation with Dick Morris about the Lewinsky matter is true or not, would the American people accept an apology? Obviously Sam Rayburn. Youre an exception to this. Its possible that President Clinton rues the fact that 9/11 didnt occur on his watch, because it was a transforming crisis and did transform, at least to date, the present President. Keeping in mind that with the exception of labor, which is a heck of a big exception, all of the powerful economic groups in the United States were for it and Clinton had just gone through a bruising battle where many of them were on the other side of him. They have made changes in policy, its not as though theyve stood still. He managed to remain viable through New Hampshire. In fact, Bernard and his late partner, George Katz, were both involved. But most of my time was spent on legislation. Do you have any recollections or observations about the President in that environment? So essentially you would not have been involved in any of the crafting, I guess, you basically were given an agreement and it was a question of just lining up the votes at this point. We had a couple of others. I recall taking maybe one or two trips with him outside New York, mostly just for my own enjoyment, to see what it was like. We had lunch. Am I misremembering, did the President invite Mr. Greenspan, to sit in the gallery next to his wife when he delivered his economic policy. I spoke in this wonderful old hall, in the legislative building, legislative chamber, it was great. I could have mentioned a lot of other people, but Im just saying, I dont think that when President [George W.] BushI dont think that as people leave the Bush administration, theyre going to do that. The President made a decision he was going toand he discussed this during the campaign at lengthbe more aggressive with Japan to have a fairer, more level playing field. Yes, Clinton was gregarious, obviously bright. You look at the turnover that she hador in her case did not haveon her staff, and the turnover that he had. During the transition period, you are formally involved in the transition effort. The reason I posed the question the way I did is that since World War II theres been bipartisanship in Presidential leadership on free trade. Oh, in the bill itself? It was really quite revealing of Clintons inexperience to do it that way, and, for that matter his style, a poor way to do it. I knew a lot about Perot, having been heavily involved in Wall Street for many years. It was a good-sized ballroom here in New York. But it was a rather fluid, floating group. I was often, or at least periodically, talking to members of the administration but not to the President. Was that equally true of the colleagues that you were making sales to with Clinton? I was often at the National Economic Council meetings that deliberated on those. Right, but if you take too much pain up front. He served as assistant secretary of the U.S. Treasury from 1977 to 1981 before returning to Lehman, where he later became co-head of overall investment banking as well as a member of the management committee and board. I dont think this is what it really says, but I suppose in the distant lens of history, Ronald Reagan ended the Cold War. Before we close, Id like to make one pitch though. There was concern that we had already spilled an enormous amount of blood on the economic plan. He knew every comma and apostrophe in the bill. There was some action forcing the schedule and the President would have had to ditch the treaty, just say, Ive decided Im not for it. No, but it wasnt just entirely that. He voted against it, we had a boom, he never paid a dimes worth of price for that. So anyway, within a few days, all of us who had anything to do with the RTC from the point of view of the Treasury were subpoenaed by Fiske. I doubt it. So its really a role that varies from Secretary to Secretary in terms of what that Secretary wants, and thats just a history of it. It was a successful fundraiser. So I dont think my reactions to that were really any different than anybody else following the campaign. Youre referring to the environmental and labor side issues. He did a version of what Carter did earlier, which was end up positioned to the right of most of his opponents in the Democratic primaries. Now youre raising a subject that is an entirely different one, which is why was this so partisan and why were the Clinton years so partisan? It was a very unusual evening, because there was a sense, as I say, we were interring the candidate. Some time around 1989 or so, Hillary Clinton went on the board. We just didnt know, and thats pretty amazing, the biggest piece of legislation, the voting has actually begun. Earlier in Little Rock, was she in attendance at any of these meetings? And the field against which Clinton ultimately competed was not a strong field. Im convinced to this day that sent a bolt of electricity through the Iranians and they figured they better not hold those hostages one hour into Ronald Reagans Presidency, and they didnt. But there was the issue of the Clintons association with it and the fact that Madison Guaranty had made loans to the actual Whitewater Development Company, and the question of whether those loans had been made under pressure from the Clintons and in fact whether [James] McDougal, who ran it, had defrauded the depositors in cahoots with the Clintons. A lot of funny things were happening. No, I was responding to a question about economic policy. So an hour before the vote is when we heard that we probably had his vote. Youd seen him working with domestic policy issues and with members of Congress and support here. But the next day, Monday, I was on a plane to Waco, Texas. A group of four of us were named at the same time: Bentsen, Rubin, [Leon] Panetta, and myself. Well, it was difficult in the beginning. They were taking, to some degree, a thousand-year view. Hed been shot eight times. Once again, were grateful for your time. No, I just remember the meeting in Little Rock quite vividly, and I think one of the first presentations was given by Allen Blinder about the economic outlook and the extent to which certain amounts of interest rate response would produce likely amounts of growth response. The ultimate plan was way too complicated for the Congress and the country to grasp and understand and soberly assess. Kerrey made a quite dramatic speech, rather excoriating Clinton, urged Clinton to get back on the high road and so forth and then cast the vote and Gore cast the tie-breaking vote and thats how it happened. There was a whole bunch of work going on on that but I was completely preoccupied with the Presidents economic program and trying to get it passed, not just during the war room period but before that. I believe Greenspan went to Little Rock. Were there Republican members that he particularly relied on. Secretary Bentsen took a lot of heat not long after being sworn in saying hed like to see a stronger yen, and that touched off a lot of controversy. Erskine Bowles had to testify and so forth. There were so many different Japanese Prime Ministers in that period I cant remember which one we had at that moment. Youre serving your country. Well, Theodore Roosevelt is a fascinating President, mostly by dint of his gargantuan personality and the way that he bestrode the country like some titanic figure. He may be forever seen in the middle. Mr. Altman returned to Washington in 1993 to serve as Deputy Secretary of the U.S. Treasury for two years. The politics of the Btu tax per se versus other types of energy taxes, including the gas tax, which we ultimately fell back on, werent well considered. I stay in touch with him. Tulip Brenner (Carol Burnett) tells off her sister-in-law (Peggy Ann Garner) in Robert Altman's "A Wedding." That happened, I want to say, late 93, that his nomination was effectively killed. But youd been doing transition work for a month. Is he going to become President? I put the President on the phone with her and of course, she cast the decisive vote. I can even imagine an independent counsel of some kind being unlikely, but not impossible, designated in the whole weapons of mass destruction issue. No, let me just correct the record. Roger C. Altman. But the politics of the Btu tax, as compared to other types of energy taxes, were not well considered. You were both involved then in student government. It was very stirring. The President and Vice President, I think it was Leon Panetta, and myself, one other person, he and I were standing there, looking out, it was a beautiful August night, not too hot, and it was just an amazing moment. This is a bit of an anecdote, but of course Joel Klein served in the Clinton administration. Youre working on prospective personnel issues? No, no. I began to see on pickup trucks around Charlottesville, very soon after Clinton became President, Impeach Bill Clinton and I dont thinkI remember Impeach Earl Warren signs, Im that old. But also the role of the media had been changing a lot and that role I think manifested itself very vividly in the Clinton years. It certainly wasnt optimal. It was a priceless education in the way the Congress and all the surrounding politics really worked. At the end of the lunch he asked me if I would serve as Deputy Secretary and I said I would. Yes, there was a big debate about whether it should be healthcare or NAFTA. He wanted me to go see Bentsen. I worked in the White House. In part, there was a sectoral approach. Luck plays a big role in politics, and he was really lucky that a number of candidates who could have been very strong ones chose not to run. You can do it through tax increases and then you have to choose the tax, and you can do it through spending reductions and you have to choose the area youre going to focus on. You havent told us about your own appointment. Were there different views? I mean, wow, but an odd personality. So it could be revived again tomorrow. His view was, I want to pick good people and let them do their jobs. Toward the end it was all about these four names or these six names and how do we get their votes. Then late one afternoon, early evening I guess, 7 oclock, in the transition office in Washington, Warren Christopher called me. So I had that meeting with Clinton. I dont. Yes, and Im sure that any number of opponents to the Presidents plan were sincere in their expectation that it wouldnt work. It wasnt as simple as that. But I really could never figure that out. The Regency Hotel. Roger Altman is Founder and Senior Chairman of Evercore, the most active independent investment bank in the world today. And Bentsen did make the call. More in terms of ostracism from your former colleagues. So it was a very interesting dynamic. Clinton moved quickly. Sure, because you always focused on the swing votes. Yes, but the independent counsel is not a Clinton-era novelty. So it was just a very unusual evening. He made quite a bit of money and then ran as a big long shot again, initially against Ralph Yarborough for the Democratic nomination for the Senate in 1970, upset Yarborough, then beat George H. W. Bush. But it wasnt clear that he was going to do so until not long before he did. I didnt devise them on my own. Yes. I think it was serious as a political thing, meaning you had three candidates instead of two and of course, the dynamic was different. Altman Thats true, yes. Exactly. Secretary Bentsen didnt know about it but a lot of other people did, and nobody paid much attention to it. So he got people to serve for a long time, even if they were not intensely loyal to him. All the groundwork had been done before the storm broke, so there were probably three to four hundred people. So monetary policy has gone from being considerably more powerful than fiscal policy in 93, to being the only policy in town in 2003. Actually, each White House that I was familiar with had its own version of what we called the National Economic Council, and if you look back for example, during the Nixon and Ford administrations, they had something quite similar. So the fact that a variety of people serve a long time, theres nothing mysterious about that, that had nothing to do with Bill Clinton. 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