since it started when you changed the connector, it sounds like its an assembly issue. No reason to leave the plantation because the Timney would not work out in your Glock. I've had two other people shoot it to make sure it wasn't a grip issue (one of the people was the class instructor so I hope his grip was good. I read it gave a much nicer trigger pull. The plunger spring somehow got turned sideways. SJ 40, thank you! Comedian and Student of Life | Ep 029 JP Sears, [ARCHIVED THREAD] - Glock 19 w/ LWD threaded bbl not going into battery with trigger depressed *Fixed*. Several years ago a local Glock shooter told me Lone Wolf is what he used. You can post now and register later. I recently changed out the connector on a new G19 I picked up and I noticed that if I rode the slide home slowly while doing dry fire practice the gun would FTRTB due to a longer arm on the connector that rides against the cam on the slide. They dont always fit perfectly right away. thats one of my fears. try firing it. If so swap slides and eliminate the slide being the issue. What load you firing? Not throwing shade on your loads just trying to eliminate a variable. What happens when you let the slide slam forward? It does once I release(reset) the trigger. I will let everyone know what I find out. When you purchase through links on our site, we may earn an affiliate commission, which supports our community. Let it forward a little bit and then let go. A forum community dedicated to glock owners and enthusiasts. update looks to be the coating in tight paces, there is some ware marks on the slides where is contacts the frame. I am still useing the stock recoil spring and striker spring. It runs fine when shooting but it you ease the slide forward it stops and does not go into battery unless the trigger is moved forward. Copyright 1996-2023 AR15.COM LLC. I think the increased slide weight is preventing the rsa from becoming fully compressed during the recoil cycle using the handloads. LW barrels are drop in, but they really are more of forced fit. I know a few guys who shoot sigs and its starting to feel like Ive been trying to make my gun perform more like theirs. I pulled out my Timney a month or two ago and went back to Apex. Could be ammo related. Kinda weird. Hope you were able to get yours sorted out. Grant me victory over my foes and those that wish to harm to me and mine. You cannot paste images directly. A forum community dedicated to glock owners and enthusiasts. You will receive an email every Friday morning featuring the latest chatter from the hottest topics, breaking news surrounding legislation, as well as exclusive deals only available to ARFCOM email subscribers. It does once I release (reset) the trigger. Try some hot 124 or 147 factory rds and let me know if it still does it. Maryland Shooters is the most active and largest Maryland gun community online. In addition, if you just had the slide (and / or frame) refinished, there is an excellent chance you will need to shoot some rounds to get the coatings thinned out in the right spots. Slide not fully returning to battery while trigger hasn't been reset (G19) So I have a G19, cerakoted slide. Create an account to follow your favorite communities and start taking part in conversations. Everything seemed fine at a field strip level just to oil. The Glock in question is the G-30SF .45ACP. To check the recoil spring for wear I was told to remove the magazine and empty the gun. Display as a link instead, That's one reason why using the slide stop is more reliable than pulling back on the slide; because some times shooters will pull it back but then also ease it forward removing momentum and causing the gun to not lock up properly. check the recoil spring. If you really want to fly, get out of the plane. Just wanted to point out that you can limp wrist with both hands on the gun and if everything is stock like you said, and you truly believe it has only been fired once, I default to user error. The Fora platform includes forum software by XenForo. My 19 does that but when I shoot everything seems to be OK. If it strips a round and goes completely into battery then the recoil spring is at least minimally OK. Subscribe to our monthly Newsletter to receive firearm news, product discounts from your favorite Industry Partners, and more. Have you made a change in ammo or reloading component lately? It had 2056 through it. Great info! If the slide goes into battery with this test, you've got other issues. Hopefully that's all it was. I am finding that especially when dry-firing, even when I am careful to let the slide "slam" shut, the slide hangs up right before lockup. One new winner* is announced every week! My current set-up is a glockstore tungsten guide rod w/ 13lb spring, TTI Grand Master spring and connector kit, and SRO on a forward controls design plate. Yes, the Glock has been altered from stock. Pasted as rich text. Everything else seems to be working fine. FYI it's not the recoil spring. with the gun completely empty and the factory connector installed I can still get it to FTRTB by holding it vertically and riding the slide home with the trigger depressed. Or like actually hitting it with a file some? ago I'm not missing a pin I just put the wrong one in, and that's honestly what I thought, I'll try to fix it and see if it helps 1 Reply With that said I dont really see how your issue is being caused by the trigger. Let my aim be true and my hand faster than those who would seek to destroy me. When you purchase through links on our site, we may earn an affiliate commission, which supports our community. I'm not new to glocks and have done detailed strips before so I don't think it is the recoil spring not seated correctly. Comedian and Student of Life | Ep 029 JP Sears, [ARCHIVED THREAD] - Looking for help. the sig comment was really a non sequitur. No lube should be needed on RSA. I'm wondering if cerakote got in the extractor channel and gummed things up. You should buy one of these if you don't already have one. It is one of the dual captured springs, so there doesn't appear to be much that can be done to "fix" anything. releasing the trigger allows it to go the rest of the way home. It may not display this or other websites correctly. Usually a problem in the op rod channel or a rail problem. I've tried three different brand new ones.I can also add that I am 99% sure the problem is in the slide. I've read through a lot of the big thread on the Timney Trigger, and have searched, and haven't been able to find similar malfunctions happening with the Timney. In the dozen or so that I have built and helped build, I have never had a need to 'file' down a trigger bar safety tab. JavaScript is disabled. Is there something specific i should look at on the mags? I don't know if that is the problem, but thank you for trying to help. Powered by Invision Community. I bought a used (only shot one time) Gen 3 Glock 36. Your previous content has been restored. Now I admit I am not sure if this is happening when i take the slide off, but I am guessing not. Subscribe to our monthly Newsletter to receive firearm news, product discounts from your favorite Industry Partners, and more. I do not recommend using a dremel on that. Everything is right in the world of Glock again. The Barbie dolls are mine. Sorry about that. You cannot paste images directly. If all fails, trade in and buy a Glock 19. It did shoot fine. Ammo from the same box will fire fine in my 92A1 and P228, and G19 with the factory barrel. sounds to me like the Timney is your problem, not the Glock. Your previous content has been restored. I tired changing the connector back to the original and nothing changed. Pasted as rich text. I've been running Glock pistols since they came out with the G21 in .45acp over 30 years ago, that's when I sold my Colt 1911 and never looked back. moved the trigger spring up on the trigger bar. The slide isn't meant to be let down easy during normal use. buddy19 I will say that I just set up a new Zev Glock 17 with RMR, and my usual loads ran the gun just fine, but (without checking) the Zev slide seems lighter than the OEM Glock one it replaced. I have 3 of them and two of the three needed extensive adjustments to the connector and trigger bar cross bar to reset properly and consistently drop the striker. what happens when you let it down slow is nothing like shooting it. On a side note, this gun did not want to feed my semiwadcutters at all, and also pinched my pinky a lot. AR15.COM is the world's largest firearm community and is a gathering place for firearm enthusiasts of all types. Be sure to check out our gun classifieds where you can buy, sell or trade your gear. What do your used primers look like? Did you completely strip the frame when you changed connectors or just the trigger assembly? I ride the reset BTW - if I didnt, it would be fine. I plan on speaking to Glock tomorrow now that I have a bit of an idea. Oct 20, 2013. Ive tried swapping the extensions to different mag bodies for what its worth and the result is the same. I gave it a little more oil than normal and seems to be getting better. It definitely had the issue less today (not every mag) but its still doing it. Any use of this content without express written consent is prohibited. I appreciate any help or tips you folks might have. It will keep the gun just out of battery when reversed. Do the RSA's need lube? Make sure your slide lock spring is all the way flush with the inside channel. Several failures to go into battery per magazine? 3 Pull the slide back fully, then slowly ride the slide back into battery position, keeping the trigger depressed the whole time. Usually, what the OP is describing is a problem somewhere else in the gun. Glock slide not going into battery, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UK-5Fw3yjcM. The problem is once I pull the trigger, and the slide racks either from firing or manually, it won't return fully to battery while the trigger is held back. What ammo? When I got the first one for my 34.4, I had multiple issues that I couldn't resolve, so I got my backup 34.4 dropped that same trigger in and it ran perfectly first time in. Limp wristing one handed wasn't the issue as it happened with both hands first. Just got my G26 back from Cold Bore Customs and did a quick trigger job, installed a smooth trigger and an extended slide release. Or vice down the slide (use wood or thick cardboard not a bare vice or you'll mess up the slide) and push the frame forward toward the muzzle as hard as you can. It's working fine now. Wish I could look at it directly. None of the modifications you mentioned are in the slide unless you changer out the plunger. I have 2 Timneys installed, one on a 34.4 & 34.3. Upload or insert images from URL. Press question mark to learn the rest of the keyboard shortcuts. Ive had to bump up my striker spring to get their a few boxes of really old PMC primers that came my way. I could measure how it was off. Did not have any problems before I had this milled. Does the gun run OK or is it failing to go into battery during live fire? Its the archer not the arrow i know, but i was immediately more accurate with the timney. I bought a Suarez milled RMR cut slide for my Glock 19 Gen 3 and if I pin the trigger after a shot, it almost never goes back into battery, which makes sense, but sometimes when I shoot correctly and don't pin the trigger it still doesn't go back into battery. It sounds more like a recoil/mag spring issue to me. I have to say that with a little tuning my Timney triggers run like no other Glock trigger I have owned and they are really a game changer for Glock pistols if you look closely at how they function! Technical Factory Pistols Glock failure to go into battery after installing Timney Trigger failure to go into battery after installing Timney Trigger By Nick29 February 21, 2022 in Glock Share Followers 2 Reply to this topic Start new topic Nick29 Posted February 21, 2022 Nick29 Members 10 Gender:Male Location:San Antonio, TX I knew what it felt like from a second 17 I own, so I knew that was the route I wanted to go. I'd take it to a gunsmith or a local shop with glock experience before it gets made worse. Its light but mushy. I'm assuming the recoil spring isn't the issue since it's only been fired one time. plunger spring or firing pin spring so i would leave the alone. Glock 36's historically dislike certain ammo's, you just need to find the ammo it likes. you say its FTRTB (failing to return to battery) when allowing the slide to slam forward (not riding it slowly) I could only guess something wasnt put together properly. it looks like the spring doesn't detend far enough , then doesn't pushes the slide into complete battery. Sign up for the ARFCOM weekly newsletter and be entered to win a free ARFCOM membership. Any use of this content without express written consent is prohibited. There is a lot of stuff interacting to make the gun work and sometimes it can be hard to figure out. All Rights Reserved. Buy, Sell, and Trade your Firearms and Gear. It has a Scherer 3.5 connector. It was a good deal, and now I know why. Pics to come soon. AR15.Com reserves the right to overwrite or replace any affiliate, commercial, or monetizable links, posted by users, with our own. In one range trip (about 350 rounds) and one match this past weekend, I basically can't get through a magazine without multiple failures to go into battery. Grab the slide by the serrations and ram the web of your shooting hand into the cradle of the frame as hard as you can until it unjams. Maybe he did something to the slide? In my opinion, I'd suggest the factory rounds (or load a hotter load) and find out if it solves the problem. This is a brand new firearm and before you fired even one round down range you took it apart and modified it thus you have no baseline performence to know what the firearm was doing before you "improved" it. The problem was a Ghost firing pin safely spring. That's an easy way to figure out if you're just limp wristing or if it's a mechanical issue. That's been my experience. I don't know what the freaking problem is with my gun not going back into battery. I was not really paying attention to what he did. Just to make sure that it wasn't something trigger related I threw the old serrated trigger assembly back in and it does the same thing so I put the new smooth one back in. Yes i am. Thanks for all the feedback everyone. This is only going to be used at the range. My G21 Gen 4 would do the same thing from time to time when it was brand new. with the gun completely empty and the factory connector installed I can still get it to FTRTB by holding it vertically and riding the slide home with the trigger depressed. Wondering if you ever got your issues resolved? have you considered maybe tossing the Timney in the trash and going back to the trigger youve used for the past 11,000 rounds and using that? I put about 600 through it with the extensions with no issues. By Polish inside the slide rail use 400 to 600 grit sand paper filed on thr edge of a credit card and full length back and fourth along the entire rail slots and the clean out and try fit on frame, better to repeat often and check for fit than tale too much. Shoot the crap out of it. 3. make sure the plunger is properly installed, take the side apart and push down on the plunger. Does it function? It appears that the safety plunger spring was laying sideways instead of inside the safety plunger. If that doesn't fix it, take the slide apart in the rear (you can find a YT video of how to take the back plate off) and make sure the springs on the firing pin, extractor and firing pin safety are in their correct orientation and not deformed. Just got my slide back from being milled for dp pro and does not go into battery every time. A couple thought on the trigger- if you work on the sear engagement, proceed with caution. When you are normally shooting, your trigger is still pulled back when the slide returns. Haha). Your link has been automatically embedded. Oh its not a logical move. For that matter, 99.99% of dirty unlubricated Glock 23's with stock parts and well worn RSA's will go into battery 99.99% of the time with all but the worst .40 cal ammo. If all else fails I'll call Glock. Outdoor Hub, LLC (d/b/a Carbon Media Group), 30800 Telegraph Rd, Suite 1921, Bingham Farms, MI 48025 USA. I can't have more than 1500-2000 rounds through this pistol. Ive played with the trigger a good bit and its still a glock trigger. Here's how you can test if it's a recoil spring issue: 1 With the pistol empty, pull the trigger, and keep the trigger depressed. Just curious as to what Glock said. Never an issue with limp wristing so far. Come join the discussion about optics, gunsmithing, styles, reviews, troubleshooting, accessories, classifieds, and more! I can swap the sli. From personal experience I recommend a factory connector. Just a thought. You can post now and register later. I just push it a fraction of an inch with my thumb, and it's good to go. If you need to smooth the face on the cruciform, I've found that a super fine file works best. Its never happened with the factory barrel. Have you tried it with the factory barrel? It seems like it gets caught on something when you hold the trigger back, like to test the reset, and then when you release the trigger the slide eases forward on its own. Im curious to see what the hype is about but getting rid of my Glocks isnt a consideration. I had a stock G19 that was failing to go into battery during live fire. I'm going to investigate your suggestions. Give your new G19 some good lube on the rails, tabs and the barrel before shooting it again. Based on your answers, I would suggest (2) things. Remove as little material as necessary while maintaining the proper angle on it (sear face). 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